humdesi
01-31 02:58 AM
Labor subst is not the real problem; atleast it looks like a small problem now compared to the other one - people jumping from EB3 to EB2 with PD intact. I don't know if this is possible. But if possible, expect HUGE retrogression for EB2 india. I suspect it'll go back to sometime in 2001 - and stay there forever. Indians with PD 2003 or later, even EB2, can kiss their greencard dreams goodbye.
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arrarrgee
07-17 12:25 PM
As someone mentioned on the other popst..DREAM ACT is for the children of illegal immigrants...not for the legal ones...
Yeah, we have to focus on long term relief. Getting AP and EAD is not a long term solution. I was hoping 'capturing unused numbers' or something better would happen with this July fiasco fix, does not seem to be happening now.
Hopefully this DREAM act will trigger more amendments like 'no limits on STEM EB visas' to get into pending bills...
Yeah, we have to focus on long term relief. Getting AP and EAD is not a long term solution. I was hoping 'capturing unused numbers' or something better would happen with this July fiasco fix, does not seem to be happening now.
Hopefully this DREAM act will trigger more amendments like 'no limits on STEM EB visas' to get into pending bills...
prakashv44
01-28 02:57 PM
Count on me, ready to support
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@ben, sorry for the spam....and this spam :crying:
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sayantan76
05-23 09:42 PM
When I called Lucille Raybal Allard's office last week, a rep from the office had an extensive conversation with me about both the bills and they have not heard about them before. He recognized me when I called him back to check if they made a decision.
Alright Folks, Let us not get distracted. We have lots of work to do.
what was the decision though? not trying to question your calling but just curious on effectiveness.....
the fact that the person remembered you does not mean anything.....say, i run a hardware shop and have not sold a mousetrap in months - suddenly 3 people come in asking for a mousetrap - despite the fact that i probably get hundreds of customers - chances are i would remember those 3
Alright Folks, Let us not get distracted. We have lots of work to do.
what was the decision though? not trying to question your calling but just curious on effectiveness.....
the fact that the person remembered you does not mean anything.....say, i run a hardware shop and have not sold a mousetrap in months - suddenly 3 people come in asking for a mousetrap - despite the fact that i probably get hundreds of customers - chances are i would remember those 3
webm
08-11 11:29 AM
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kate123
03-10 05:20 PM
I am trying to get the original question info from him. Probably he will read the thread and answer it.
I guess it is 485. Country of birth does not come in to picture at 140 stage.
I guess it is 485. Country of birth does not come in to picture at 140 stage.
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satyasaich
09-13 04:21 PM
But, can i do a small change that "approximately 500,000 potential buyers stranded to invest around $100 Billions in Housing market(assuming that average price of home @$200,000)"
In the housing market terms, $100 Billions is a kicker and no doubt a Winning argument.
This might sound weired..but I think we can get some support from Housing Market !
Facts:
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The housing market is slowing down significantly and there are millions of unsold homes out there.
More than 1/2 million people are stuck in the green card process. I am sure
most are waiting for green card before they buy their house and make longtime commitment.
I think we are a "Frozen" pool of customers for the Housing Market.
500000 H1B X 300000 (average house price) = 150 billion dollar market is just
inaccessible just because of retrogression.
I think we should convince them to help us FINANCIALY
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In the housing market terms, $100 Billions is a kicker and no doubt a Winning argument.
This might sound weired..but I think we can get some support from Housing Market !
Facts:
------
The housing market is slowing down significantly and there are millions of unsold homes out there.
More than 1/2 million people are stuck in the green card process. I am sure
most are waiting for green card before they buy their house and make longtime commitment.
I think we are a "Frozen" pool of customers for the Housing Market.
500000 H1B X 300000 (average house price) = 150 billion dollar market is just
inaccessible just because of retrogression.
I think we should convince them to help us FINANCIALY
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santb1975
12-03 03:01 PM
But is this ok to do?
Is this a legal option for a non profit? If so, I suggest we go for it!
Here is one scheme I have been thinking about:
1. Every week members donate any amount they like over paypal
2. At the end of the week one of them is selected and refunded 2 times his contribution amount
3. To make things interesting and ensure the scheme "helps" and not "hurts" IV: Change the selection process every once in a while e.g. One week you select the user who has donated an "average" amount, but next week you select the "highest" donor, in the 3rd week you select the "5th" name in the donor's list irrespective of his amount, and so on.
e.g.
consider the following players/amounts in a given week:
user1: $20
user2: $100
user3: $10
user4: $45
user5: $25
user6: $50
user7: $25
user8: $5
user9: $10
user10: $100
________
Total: $390
Divide by 10 users: $39
This week's selection process: Select the "average" donor.
Who donated an amount closest to the average? : user4 ($45)
Therefore, refund user4 for $90
What IV received in the process: $390- $90 = $300
The other BIG question is: what incentive do people then have to sign up for monthly contributions, which is clearly the preferred way of contributing as it helps in planning and budgeting? The answer would probably be "bigger" prizes for those who sign up for monthly contributions!
Of course... if only people realize there can be no greater incentive than receiving your Green Card sooner/ being able to apply for AOS any time after LC/PERM stage is cleared.... we would not have to care about all these fancy ideas!
Too bad people can't see what is "2+2" until it is shown as 2*2*2 - 2^2!
Is this a legal option for a non profit? If so, I suggest we go for it!
Here is one scheme I have been thinking about:
1. Every week members donate any amount they like over paypal
2. At the end of the week one of them is selected and refunded 2 times his contribution amount
3. To make things interesting and ensure the scheme "helps" and not "hurts" IV: Change the selection process every once in a while e.g. One week you select the user who has donated an "average" amount, but next week you select the "highest" donor, in the 3rd week you select the "5th" name in the donor's list irrespective of his amount, and so on.
e.g.
consider the following players/amounts in a given week:
user1: $20
user2: $100
user3: $10
user4: $45
user5: $25
user6: $50
user7: $25
user8: $5
user9: $10
user10: $100
________
Total: $390
Divide by 10 users: $39
This week's selection process: Select the "average" donor.
Who donated an amount closest to the average? : user4 ($45)
Therefore, refund user4 for $90
What IV received in the process: $390- $90 = $300
The other BIG question is: what incentive do people then have to sign up for monthly contributions, which is clearly the preferred way of contributing as it helps in planning and budgeting? The answer would probably be "bigger" prizes for those who sign up for monthly contributions!
Of course... if only people realize there can be no greater incentive than receiving your Green Card sooner/ being able to apply for AOS any time after LC/PERM stage is cleared.... we would not have to care about all these fancy ideas!
Too bad people can't see what is "2+2" until it is shown as 2*2*2 - 2^2!
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Macaca
11-27 01:21 PM
From The amero conspiracy Behind closed doors, a secret cabal is planning the end of the United States as we know it. Inside a paranoid vision for our time By Drake Bennett | Boston Globe, November 25, 2007: 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=198390&postcount=479) 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=198390&postcount=480)
Corsi's warning cry and gift for detail have given the theory traction in circles where anxieties about immigration and corporate oligarchy intersect. Lou Dobbs, whose CNN show portrays both free trade and increased immigration as sops to multinational corporations and body blows to the middle class, has devoted investigative segments to the NAU, the amero, and the NAFTA Superhighway.
From How Trade Breakthrough Almost Broke Down in Congress (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=198072&postcount=460) By Juliet Eilperin | Washington Post Staff Writer, November 22, 2007
Rangel said, adding that opponents of free trade on CNN and elsewhere have effectively linked recent U.S. job losses to trade pacts. "It's the Lou Dobbs thing: 'It's all due to trade.' "
Corsi's warning cry and gift for detail have given the theory traction in circles where anxieties about immigration and corporate oligarchy intersect. Lou Dobbs, whose CNN show portrays both free trade and increased immigration as sops to multinational corporations and body blows to the middle class, has devoted investigative segments to the NAU, the amero, and the NAFTA Superhighway.
From How Trade Breakthrough Almost Broke Down in Congress (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=198072&postcount=460) By Juliet Eilperin | Washington Post Staff Writer, November 22, 2007
Rangel said, adding that opponents of free trade on CNN and elsewhere have effectively linked recent U.S. job losses to trade pacts. "It's the Lou Dobbs thing: 'It's all due to trade.' "
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wandmaker
06-02 08:16 AM
Since all the reps are from California, Is this only for California members?
If not, let me know and I will get on the horn as soon as I can (probably not possible today, maybe tomorrow).
Please call - they may ask you to contact the local rep; just tell them you have already contacted, it should be fine.
If not, let me know and I will get on the horn as soon as I can (probably not possible today, maybe tomorrow).
Please call - they may ask you to contact the local rep; just tell them you have already contacted, it should be fine.
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jthomas
05-29 07:11 PM
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-153059.html
Foreign laborers break the law by collecting unemployment
the other person is also a IV member on the post. Anti-immigrants have been comming to our site and collecting information about your discussion. I am not at all worried about anything.
Please do not fight with conflicting topics which is of no use.
Did you guys looked at the latest projections given by USCIS, its on murthy.com. For those who want to wait 10-15 years in limbo, i will pray for you all. For those who want to explore new options, i want to wish you best of luck,
Foreign laborers break the law by collecting unemployment
the other person is also a IV member on the post. Anti-immigrants have been comming to our site and collecting information about your discussion. I am not at all worried about anything.
Please do not fight with conflicting topics which is of no use.
Did you guys looked at the latest projections given by USCIS, its on murthy.com. For those who want to wait 10-15 years in limbo, i will pray for you all. For those who want to explore new options, i want to wish you best of luck,
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GCAmigo
07-12 11:27 AM
I remember long time ago somebody used to say that this Greencard is a SCAM....I am so frustrated..
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santb1975
01-30 05:07 PM
it is at 22 now. I will post this on the so.Cal chapter
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02-01 04:54 PM
Anti-immigrants can not be able to pick on this, because Retrogression will worsen all these things. Those people will continute to work with those desi consulting companys irrespective of the fact that they have GCs or not, because they cannot stand on their own feet.
If the retrogression goes away then people with good skills can move freely in the market and will be more readily available to the market. In fact that would harm thse companys big time. Currently both good and not so good people are hostage in the hands of these companys and these companys are sort of dictating the makket conditions.
In economic terms the difference is same as Free market and monopolistic market.
thx. this is enlightening for me! survival of these companies hurts ppl with high skills, it increases retrogression, and it untimately harms the economy as well.
If the retrogression goes away then people with good skills can move freely in the market and will be more readily available to the market. In fact that would harm thse companys big time. Currently both good and not so good people are hostage in the hands of these companys and these companys are sort of dictating the makket conditions.
In economic terms the difference is same as Free market and monopolistic market.
thx. this is enlightening for me! survival of these companies hurts ppl with high skills, it increases retrogression, and it untimately harms the economy as well.
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ns33
03-13 11:56 AM
I seriously hope that this is correct even though it doesn't apply to me : (
Anyway, IIRC, in past there have been incidences where VB posted in mumbai Consulate's website actually did not turn out to be true. Couple of years back - after the retrogression - it predicted huge forward movement which 2 days later turned out to be false hope...
so keep your fingers crossed...
: )
Anyway, IIRC, in past there have been incidences where VB posted in mumbai Consulate's website actually did not turn out to be true. Couple of years back - after the retrogression - it predicted huge forward movement which 2 days later turned out to be false hope...
so keep your fingers crossed...
: )
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hebbar77
10-09 11:01 PM
If you are not in india, then you are somewhere to earn more than you do than in india. So investment is safe if you can afford to invest in that property without a loan. If you are taking a loan you are getting ripped off. STOP there.
to me agricultural land is next to investment in gold. agri land always holds value(sale value) or appreciates over time. Always you can get decent return by farming something there. So my belief is you always get 6%+ return on investment over short/long period of time.
city properties are just a ripp off. So get only one property if you want to live for yourself.. Investment of say 50 lacs on a flat(condo), may give you a good rent. But for how long? and what % of interest you pay on that loan? And what will the aging affect be on that flat!!...
that way land | house is better choice!
To me below are investment items first the highest safety + return(decreasing order or preference)
1. gold(other precious metals)
2. treasary bonds../govt assured accounts
2. agri land(either in india or US, in is labor is higher)
3. city independent houses
4. select mutual funds
5. stock market
6. Condos
to me agricultural land is next to investment in gold. agri land always holds value(sale value) or appreciates over time. Always you can get decent return by farming something there. So my belief is you always get 6%+ return on investment over short/long period of time.
city properties are just a ripp off. So get only one property if you want to live for yourself.. Investment of say 50 lacs on a flat(condo), may give you a good rent. But for how long? and what % of interest you pay on that loan? And what will the aging affect be on that flat!!...
that way land | house is better choice!
To me below are investment items first the highest safety + return(decreasing order or preference)
1. gold(other precious metals)
2. treasary bonds../govt assured accounts
2. agri land(either in india or US, in is labor is higher)
3. city independent houses
4. select mutual funds
5. stock market
6. Condos
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VMH_GC
07-17 12:16 PM
I don't care when i would get the Green card. what i want is interim relief (AP and EAD). Something is better than Nothing.
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02-13 10:50 PM
Attack my ideas and not me. Then we can have a debate conducive to achieving our goals.
Anand, there is a conference call scheduled this Friday. Pls join the conference call and pour in your ideas. Sure if your ideas are good and conceivable Core team would defly work on implementing it. Dont be an outsider, try to get more involved. Again if you want to be part of the Core Let Aman & Co know, they should be able to delegate you some responsibilites.
Just like you, everybody is frustrated with the lack of progress. But we do understand our limitations, we can only educate the lawmakers with our issues, but we cant arm twist them to do something favorable. We have to keep our expectations right. As Logiclife told if big corporations like Microsoft cant achieve what they, want who are we? Does this mean we shld quit and resign our fate. Live another day, Fight another day till we achieve what we want.
I contribute, i participate in the calls, i write to the reporters, i send faxes and emails to Senators/House Reps, Appear in Newspaper & Radio interviews and most of all Spare a Prayer to God to improve my situation. That is all i can do and if every one of us does what is needed sure something positive will happen. I am not a CORE member, just an ordinary member like YOU.
Anand, there is a conference call scheduled this Friday. Pls join the conference call and pour in your ideas. Sure if your ideas are good and conceivable Core team would defly work on implementing it. Dont be an outsider, try to get more involved. Again if you want to be part of the Core Let Aman & Co know, they should be able to delegate you some responsibilites.
Just like you, everybody is frustrated with the lack of progress. But we do understand our limitations, we can only educate the lawmakers with our issues, but we cant arm twist them to do something favorable. We have to keep our expectations right. As Logiclife told if big corporations like Microsoft cant achieve what they, want who are we? Does this mean we shld quit and resign our fate. Live another day, Fight another day till we achieve what we want.
I contribute, i participate in the calls, i write to the reporters, i send faxes and emails to Senators/House Reps, Appear in Newspaper & Radio interviews and most of all Spare a Prayer to God to improve my situation. That is all i can do and if every one of us does what is needed sure something positive will happen. I am not a CORE member, just an ordinary member like YOU.
pd_recapturing
03-31 08:27 AM
This is definitely scary. I think, we need to kick start our campaign again in full throttle. Last time, we thought, things were changing and we kind of stopped our campaign. There was a Ombudsman link where they suggested to contact them if 485 is wrongfully denied. Did someone contact them?
kubmilegaGC
09-24 07:39 PM
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS...this morning 10:00AM CST we got the CPO emails for both of us...
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
....and the final step #6 is done - got the physical cards at home today. One long journey comes to an end!!!
Wishing LUCK for everyone who's still waiting!
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
....and the final step #6 is done - got the physical cards at home today. One long journey comes to an end!!!
Wishing LUCK for everyone who's still waiting!
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