anda007
07-08 11:52 PM
People are sending this not make anything to change here. As long as the point is conveyed and there is media coverage, there is some redemption
People are doing this to gain a visibility and acknowledgement of our suffering.
So please encourage this rather than put a negative remark like this.
If you do not want to send it, its fine. Nobody is forcing anybody.
The flowers are going there is large numbers irrespective of what IV says or anybody says
There is no point in sending flowers knowing nothing gonna change. it is like putting flowers to us.
People are doing this to gain a visibility and acknowledgement of our suffering.
So please encourage this rather than put a negative remark like this.
If you do not want to send it, its fine. Nobody is forcing anybody.
The flowers are going there is large numbers irrespective of what IV says or anybody says
There is no point in sending flowers knowing nothing gonna change. it is like putting flowers to us.
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grupak
09-15 12:19 AM
Here is the problem
-- Grass root & state level efforts work only when there are a lot of grass root workers. For example independence struggle in india worked due to grass root efforts. But please try to understand that things are different here --- by definition, we are immigrants, our numbers are limited in this country.
Okay. Its obvious that we need more participation from members for higher rate of success for IV campaigns.
Simply put, groups working in isolated corners of the country are having no effect on the politicians, because each area has only a few people and the politicians are not seeing the combined effect.
"Grass root efforts" may sound very trendy, but are actually leading us no where............yes we need it......but at the same time IV has to have a strong leadership who can show their strenght by doing phone / lettere campaigns.
Actually I disagree with you on two fronts. Even with low member participation, whatever success IV had is to a large measure due to the member participation. Second point is your post seem to suggest, I might have misread your statement, that just the IV leadership alone can make the phone/letter campaign a success. How? I am not privy to IV core information but I would doubt that just the IV core calling and writing letters would persuade the folks in DC to change their position.
My take is that the IV core can help come up with focused action items, and its by increasing grass roots effort that we can achieve the IV goals. IV core can also help with the lobbying activity, which again needs funds from the members. Increasing member participation in IV is the difficult part. Talk is easy.
-- Grass root & state level efforts work only when there are a lot of grass root workers. For example independence struggle in india worked due to grass root efforts. But please try to understand that things are different here --- by definition, we are immigrants, our numbers are limited in this country.
Okay. Its obvious that we need more participation from members for higher rate of success for IV campaigns.
Simply put, groups working in isolated corners of the country are having no effect on the politicians, because each area has only a few people and the politicians are not seeing the combined effect.
"Grass root efforts" may sound very trendy, but are actually leading us no where............yes we need it......but at the same time IV has to have a strong leadership who can show their strenght by doing phone / lettere campaigns.
Actually I disagree with you on two fronts. Even with low member participation, whatever success IV had is to a large measure due to the member participation. Second point is your post seem to suggest, I might have misread your statement, that just the IV leadership alone can make the phone/letter campaign a success. How? I am not privy to IV core information but I would doubt that just the IV core calling and writing letters would persuade the folks in DC to change their position.
My take is that the IV core can help come up with focused action items, and its by increasing grass roots effort that we can achieve the IV goals. IV core can also help with the lobbying activity, which again needs funds from the members. Increasing member participation in IV is the difficult part. Talk is easy.
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msp1976
02-04 09:50 PM
No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
You see ...even in this text congress did not explicitly write that the 7% country limit does not apply to the EB immigration.They did not remove the limits as you claim...Unless and until they write that the 7% limit does not apply...all your logic remains on paper and not in practice...
The acceptable solution to all so that all of us get something is as Alisa says...'increase the total numbers'......Then all categories become current...
At least you would get to file 485 and spouses can work...
Otherwise we would just keep fighting among ourselves and get no where.....
Choices are simple...1. co operate with each other build a group, have a common minimum goal and get something ...
2. do not cooperate with each other and get stuck in the same thing forever...
Moderators...
Read the last 2/3 pages including this one and you would know the reasons why you have a large non-contributing member base....
Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.
After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.
The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.
If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.
INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter
My intension is simple.
Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.
You see ...even in this text congress did not explicitly write that the 7% country limit does not apply to the EB immigration.They did not remove the limits as you claim...Unless and until they write that the 7% limit does not apply...all your logic remains on paper and not in practice...
The acceptable solution to all so that all of us get something is as Alisa says...'increase the total numbers'......Then all categories become current...
At least you would get to file 485 and spouses can work...
Otherwise we would just keep fighting among ourselves and get no where.....
Choices are simple...1. co operate with each other build a group, have a common minimum goal and get something ...
2. do not cooperate with each other and get stuck in the same thing forever...
Moderators...
Read the last 2/3 pages including this one and you would know the reasons why you have a large non-contributing member base....
wandmaker
12-03 07:02 PM
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I_Luv_GC
07-17 07:29 PM
Congratulations to everyone...and especially IV Core Team..You guys really ROCK...This acheivement wouldn't be possible without your dedicated hard work..I can't thank enough for your extraordinary efforts for this great accomplishment...Our good wishes and contributions will always be with you in all your future efforts..
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abhijitp
11-20 05:20 PM
We have had similar experiences in Southern California as well. We are about a group of 10 - 15 ppl. in so.cal who actively take part in the action items and contribute inspite of having 113 registered members in the chapter. We recruited over 200 newbies in the past three events in southern california. Let's see if we can get all of them to register and get active
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Sorry for spelling your name wrong in the Title
NP about the spelling, you just gave me a chance to bump up this thread:)
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ns33
07-10 02:21 PM
It is a simple logic, when the cake gets cut it rolls down to all the people in line. If there is no cake, whats the point of arguing who is ahead in line?
Well said. We see the community fighting with no cake in hand.
Chanduv23 First - let me say I respect your outstanding and active contribution on this forum very much. Having said that, I'd say, you both conveniently missed the point in my post.
I am not arguing about who is ahead in the line to get the non-existent cake - please read my post once again and point it out to me where I said anything in such regard..
Frustration comes from the point that all the discussions take tone that all IV efforts are to help EB2 category alone. It is becoming frustrating for EB3s to keep reading posts and participating in actions when everyone keeps portraying IV effort as EB2 only effort.
I'd request you both to please read my post again.
All I have said is that message need to be made stronger that IV effort is for all EB community.
By responding with who's ahead in line type of comment you both are just ignoring the situation that already exists as of today on this forum wrt EB categories. I'd venture to say that if at all you're making that feel of eb3 left out even worse than it already it.
Apologize if I have offended anyone and will gladly take that red dot for speaking out my mind.
As far as the lawsuit is concerned, just like all the other IV efforts, I'd gladly participate in it.
Another possibility should also be investigated and that is re. selective enforcement of zeigler memo by some DOLs.
Well said. We see the community fighting with no cake in hand.
Chanduv23 First - let me say I respect your outstanding and active contribution on this forum very much. Having said that, I'd say, you both conveniently missed the point in my post.
I am not arguing about who is ahead in the line to get the non-existent cake - please read my post once again and point it out to me where I said anything in such regard..
Frustration comes from the point that all the discussions take tone that all IV efforts are to help EB2 category alone. It is becoming frustrating for EB3s to keep reading posts and participating in actions when everyone keeps portraying IV effort as EB2 only effort.
I'd request you both to please read my post again.
All I have said is that message need to be made stronger that IV effort is for all EB community.
By responding with who's ahead in line type of comment you both are just ignoring the situation that already exists as of today on this forum wrt EB categories. I'd venture to say that if at all you're making that feel of eb3 left out even worse than it already it.
Apologize if I have offended anyone and will gladly take that red dot for speaking out my mind.
As far as the lawsuit is concerned, just like all the other IV efforts, I'd gladly participate in it.
Another possibility should also be investigated and that is re. selective enforcement of zeigler memo by some DOLs.
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11-30 02:34 PM
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GCStatus
09-18 12:11 AM
madhuvj or GCStatus,
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing better things. Your actions are not helping anyone including yourself. Hope you understand.
Holy cow - you got to be kidding man - This is getting hilarious. Show me proof its from same machine and same IP.
I am sorry, i expected better from an admin. " If i can be blunt" is a genuine thread. Not a waste of time.
Seriously, i lost all the respect after you keep making statements after statements without even backing up one of them.
Amazingly you are still rude and i am not.
Thanks for your suggestion. But the problem is its not that simple. Here is why. If the same individual create multiple IDs on IV and post using multiple IDs, one for posting derogatory comments and others that are not derogatory, we can keep mum to a point, but then it just gets too frustrating. Like in this case, madhuvj and GCStatus is the same person posting from the same machine but posting as if you are two different individuals. Hence my posts. Please stop this and email/pm us your phone number and we will start the transition process. We are sure you will do a better job than us.
You see, just like everyone else, we also have limited number of hours in a day. We can either spend our time looking at who is using multiple forum ids to post similar messages creating a false impression for other forum visitor, like the one projected in 'if i can be blunt' thread, or we can spend our time doing better things. Your actions are not helping anyone including yourself. Hope you understand.
Holy cow - you got to be kidding man - This is getting hilarious. Show me proof its from same machine and same IP.
I am sorry, i expected better from an admin. " If i can be blunt" is a genuine thread. Not a waste of time.
Seriously, i lost all the respect after you keep making statements after statements without even backing up one of them.
Amazingly you are still rude and i am not.
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Milind123
09-07 10:46 PM
Numbers are the only thing that matter................wrong again.
alterego - Good counter point on the numbers thing.
Sheman - Think Rosa Parks (only one person). It the bus was empty that day, we certainly would be in a different world.
alterego - Good counter point on the numbers thing.
Sheman - Think Rosa Parks (only one person). It the bus was empty that day, we certainly would be in a different world.
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07-07 03:10 PM
The billing address is for the florist! They dont give it to the receiver! Yeah if Emilio really wants he can track you down (subpoena the florist etc etc..). But how many people will he track down? And what is he going to do? Sue you for sending him flowers? Of course that depends on what message you send along with the flowers :)
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thanks - :) I sent a decent message -:)
Message sent with the flowers
Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Legal skilled non-immigrants are sorry that you are having such a hard time in determining priority dates.
All the best for future employment based visa estimates.
Thank you for showing us the joy for a few days and then taking it away.
- Patiently waiting !!
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thanks - :) I sent a decent message -:)
Message sent with the flowers
Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Legal skilled non-immigrants are sorry that you are having such a hard time in determining priority dates.
All the best for future employment based visa estimates.
Thank you for showing us the joy for a few days and then taking it away.
- Patiently waiting !!
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reedandbamboo
09-11 12:40 AM
Sweet_jungle and Bawa,
Thank you for your initiative. After the raised and dashed hopes over the past 2-3 months (August, Sept & Oct 2008 visa bulletins) I am BLOODY angry about this RIDICULOUSLY fecked up system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell am I subjecting myself to this indignity!!
Here is a letter I drafted that I'd like to send to the Ombudsman .. could you'll help me edit/revise the content and also, please provide me with the contact info for the ombudsman?
we could also write letters to highlight this to Congresswoman Lofgren as well as publish it in media outlets?
Thanks!
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the Indian legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am
writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services�
provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous times when there have been erratic movements in the published visa bulletin dates. As a result the DOS either under- or over-estimates the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. When the date moves forward by too large a window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that???
Indian employment-based immigrants are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS.
3) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of this extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later.
Thanking you,
Thank you for your initiative. After the raised and dashed hopes over the past 2-3 months (August, Sept & Oct 2008 visa bulletins) I am BLOODY angry about this RIDICULOUSLY fecked up system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell am I subjecting myself to this indignity!!
Here is a letter I drafted that I'd like to send to the Ombudsman .. could you'll help me edit/revise the content and also, please provide me with the contact info for the ombudsman?
we could also write letters to highlight this to Congresswoman Lofgren as well as publish it in media outlets?
Thanks!
Sir/Madam,
On behalf of the Indian legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am
writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services�
provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous times when there have been erratic movements in the published visa bulletin dates. As a result the DOS either under- or over-estimates the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. When the date moves forward by too large a window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that???
Indian employment-based immigrants are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:
1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS.
3) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).
While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of this extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later.
Thanking you,
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Still I need four more first time contributing members.
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ajm
04-13 09:45 PM
I have been in this country for 7 years and waiting for PD to apply for 485. I want to share with everybody how employers can really **** the GC. My labor was cleared in sept. 2004, that time it was current and was eligible for concurrent filing. My employer kept on delaying and applied during december christmas week end. Later he surprises me saying that it was rejected, attorney had sent 140 and 485 to California processing center instead of sending it to vermont. On the labor approval, it is clearly written that it should be sent to Vermont for 485. He did not provide me any proof that he had applied for 485 before retrogession was effective.
From the looks of it, your employer is willing to go to ridiculous extents to keep you from obtaining a GC. So why do you want to reward his malicious behaviour by continuing to work from him? What's the guarantee that he will apply even when your priority date becomes current?
From the looks of it, your employer is willing to go to ridiculous extents to keep you from obtaining a GC. So why do you want to reward his malicious behaviour by continuing to work from him? What's the guarantee that he will apply even when your priority date becomes current?
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God, what did you do to my freinds on IV? Give them GC and heal...
Republicans, capitolists? may be for their own families and freinds? thats why economy is in dumps? i get it...
God, what did you do to my freinds on IV? Give them GC and heal...
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sugaur
12-09 04:41 PM
Ok. One last shot. You need to get better with your posting skills, don't type up comments inline and then call the other person blind :)
The links which I posted have nothing to do with left or right. Skip the commentary if you so please, read the quotes attributed to the Sheriff.
Like I posted earlier, I am not condoning the illegal acts per se, just how 'law' was being implemented.
We can agree to disagree. We just don't look at things the same way. I am done here. Good luck. Peace !
Same to you:) And I hope you see the light soon!:)
The links which I posted have nothing to do with left or right. Skip the commentary if you so please, read the quotes attributed to the Sheriff.
Like I posted earlier, I am not condoning the illegal acts per se, just how 'law' was being implemented.
We can agree to disagree. We just don't look at things the same way. I am done here. Good luck. Peace !
Same to you:) And I hope you see the light soon!:)
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