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  • apahilaj
    04-23 06:43 PM
    All,

    Opened my email this morning to see the card production ordered email (time stamp in my inbox reads 2:15 am PST 4/23/08); the approval date was 4/23/08.

    Been in meetings all day so not even a chance to call anyone about it.

    Yay!

    Good luck to all my fellow sufferers!

    Googler

    Does that mean that we won't get any inside news from Mr. Oppenheimer (if I spelled his name correctly) any more..?:) Just kidding.

    Enjoy your freedom. Congratulations!





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  • pitha
    06-12 02:17 PM
    So what is your point, you say only CIR can bring any relief to eb immigrants and no other bill like skil will be considered, but cir will not gives us any relief at all, so you would prefer a cir without any relief for us rather than not having any bill?

    all this talk about cantwell amendment, what does cantwell amendment offer us, it offers us nothing that we dont already have. Canwell amendment is the best amednment we have so far, that should give you an idea of the pathetic situation we are in. Please start opposing this bill. If not, can somebody enlighten me what is the "good stuff" i am missing in this bill.

    Pitha (Shree)
    I see what you are thinking, but EB3india is correct. In CIR or never.
    I agree with him that we need to get a new stratergy to handle this.

    I do not know why IV core has not spoken after this bill died. When CIR came to the Senate floor with all these restrictions, Logiclife mentioned something
    like we should become illegals.

    He must have been kidding but one could see the fact that the illegals were the ones who were getting the benefits.

    I want to hear a similar statement from them, let us see........





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  • injrav
    03-12 11:06 AM
    I support this.

    I think its good idea





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  • desi3933
    01-30 03:04 PM
    So, basically anyone laid off on I485 pending without a job is accumulating "out of status" days.That's your opinion?

    No. This is NOT what I said.

    Filing for I-485 covers out of status covers in most cases and it does not cover out of status from last admission to the date of I-485 filing.

    ____________________
    Not a legal advice.
    US Citizen of Indian Origin



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  • java98
    08-12 07:41 PM
    I complete agree with your ideas and effort.
    Please count me in.

    God Bless you all





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  • royus77
    08-10 09:10 PM
    If you are trying to open philosophical topic I suggest we do it in a separate thread, because that debate will be a very long one.

    BTW do you know the deal with the bees? Bees are just insects, right? But did you know that you are living here on this earth because of them? If the country is filled with geniuses then what is the worth of genius? Therefore dont compare humans in this way



    Most of the Eb3's are either working for big companies who won't do GC in EB2 or not qualified for eb2 ( so called 3 year degree ) and enjoying all these years when they know clearly eb3 is not going any where ...what in the world prevent them to move up the ladder and porting their PDs ...They dont want to take any risk and just show their frustation in internet forums

    As some one in the forum quoted "There is a path of joy and there is the path of pleasure. Pondering on them, the wise (eb1 ,pre-approved labor and eb2 inorder ) chooses the path of joy; the fool takes the path of pleasure."



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  • Appu
    10-20 05:30 PM
    The democrats will take the house by a very large majority and the senate by a less-than-60 vote majority. So if CIR makes a come back republicans will not be in a very strong position to strike a deal on high-skilled immigration. But there are a number of democrats who also support high-skilled immigration. People opposed to H1B and employment-based green card reforms are on both sides of the aisle (Dems Dick Durbin and Byron Dorgan, Republicans Jeff Sessions and Chuck Grassley for example) but hopefully they will remain a minority. It also looks like vocal supporters like Jon Cornyn will win re-election. But Pete Domenici is retiring. So, on the balance, there will be some change but not a drastic change on the legislative side.

    Sen Obama is a very pragmatic and thoughtful person. You should know that he was co-sponsor of the PACE Act which, among other things, tried to create a F4 visa and make it very easy for STEM graduates to get green cards. There is absolutely no need to be panicked about a Obama win. Sen McCain, on the other hand, seems to have gone back on many of his immigration promises these last few months. It will be a concern if there is a democratic congress and McCain is in the White House.





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  • kumar1
    12-15 11:01 AM
    gcisadawg,
    Very well said. What you said, also gives strength to my point. We are self proclaimed "highly skilled" workers. We shouldn't have been trained, we shouldn't have been air lifted by desi consultants. We shouldn't have been sold for short/long term projects after coming to the US.

    Actually, during 1999-2000 year, when I was about to graduate from IIT, yes, my class mates used to receive calls from Microsoft based in Seattle and Phillips based in Holland. Those companies paid final year graduating students (with good track record), a return trip to Seattle for interview. That was the real demand! And mind you, those students were very talented. They already had secured 100% aid from excellent US universities. So, it was a scenario of good company taking interest in excellent students and then filing for H1-B and subsequently green card. Can you imagine, Microsoft getting a RFE from USCIS to show "ability to pay"! We have so many people yelling on these forums because companies do not have the ability to pay to these "highly skilled workers".

    I can go on and on.....

    I do not agree with anyone who claims that we are really "required" here. We are fighting to survive here and we are fighting to get Green Cards. We have 50 million hate groups in the US that do not like us at all. It is a tough road ahead !





    kumar1,

    I agree to most of the points you wrote. I believe there is one thing that you missed.

    H1B is a dual intent visa that allows a foreigner to work in US and also apply for permanent residency. It was originally intended for American companies to hire people from abroad. But how many American companies hire people directly from abroad? Even if there is some, it would be very very minimal.

    Body shoppers are the one who take on the difficult task of interviewing/recruiting/sponsoring/air-lifting the foreigner to USA in addition to preparing the candidate to withstand the rigors of a visa interview.
    They give initial accommodation (agreed, a 1BR aptmnt cramped with many ppl), pay on bench ( accepted, not all), place the candidate on a project and get the foreigner US work/cultural experience. After they go through the whole nine yards, these American companies jump in and poach these H1Bs.

    Take the body shoppers and glorified body shoppers like TCS, wipro, infy etc out of the equation and you would have sheer wastage of H1B numbers since the American companies will not go abroad to recruit someone who is unfamiliar with US work culture.

    That is why congress came up with 20K quota for master degree holders who can be recruited directly by US corporations. In my opinion, US corporations should not complain at all since they were never interested in upholding the true spirit of H1B by recruiting people from abroad directly.

    -gcisadawg



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  • svr_76
    06-10 02:21 PM
    Gr8 you win. now lets forge ahead on how to proceed and get similar details from other groups specially the high-tech lobby/group.





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  • Sammo
    02-13 11:08 AM
    Theme::: Subway (as in underground train station)

    No, just subway, see signifiers entry



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  • howzatt
    08-15 08:16 PM
    Sept Bulletin out - http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3761.html

    I'm unable to understand well why EB3 is "U". :mad:

    Friends, please share your thoughts. Let us discuss.........

    LOL. Nice first post!





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  • rajuram
    03-10 09:04 PM
    I agree, when will the right time to recapture visa numbers???
    We did not do it in the last government,
    we did not do it when the economy was good,
    did not do it when they were wanting ways for new people to buy houses,
    did not do it in july 2007,

    THERE WILL NEVER BE A RIGHT TIME, NEVER



    Of all 4 the proposals made by vbkris77,
    I would just stick with one and only one:
    RE-CAPTURING VISA NUMBERS.

    If we add any other item like re validating H1B inside US,accountability for USCIS etc, the message would bound to get lost. It will get bogged down by the details of implementing the other proposals. The devil is always in the details.

    I think we need to stick to single target of visa re-capturing (with no mention of the word H1B in the legislation). There should be no crap about H1B workers stealing jobs nor granting pardon for illegals. Visa re-capture is for educated foreign-born professionals currently employed in US.

    Many ask if this is the right time. When will be the right time?. Are we asking anything that has not been already granted by the law?. These past visa numbers have been already approved by the law but not used by the USCIS.

    The time is RIGHT NOW.
    It is interesting why IV team is not taking up this one item and start fund raising.
    May be the team has some valid reasons for not doing so. I could only guess.
    But waiting for the right time to take up this agenda of re-capturing visa numbers is not a valid reason. That is totally hopeless.



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  • alex99
    04-11 10:26 AM
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  • gc28262
    06-10 01:01 PM
    svr_76,
    Your arguments are baseless. No company will ever hire an H1B to replace an equally qualified Citizen/Green card holder. Company has to spend a lot on H1B employees on lawyer fees and other complications.

    Anti-immigrant lawmakers are using the excuse of economy to push through their legislations.



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  • gcdreamer05
    03-09 12:41 PM
    by the way shusterman predicted ROW will retrogress in his blog found at shusterman.com there was also an IV post about this (abbout somethin like shusterman got a call from clinton or something)..........

    so what happened to the quareterly spill over ???????????





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  • gkdgopi
    07-13 09:27 PM
    Whoever supports our cause are our friends irrespective of their motives, we need as much support as we can get now. my 2 cents.



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  • alisa
    01-23 06:33 AM
    I agree, at some point, things break even, because people will frankly get fed up and leave. That point will be somewhere between 10-20 years. And we will then be congratulating the two or three Indians who wait this out.

    This was just an attempt to model in the absence of reliable information, and to try and get as reliable information as can possible be got. I wish we could get more data and links here than we currently have (just one I think.)

    The modelling on this thread shows wait times of 15-20 years for India, about 5 years for ROW, and somewhere in between for China (I think China will be closer to ROW than India just because their backlogs for 2001 and 2002 were one fourth that of India.)

    The purpose of the exercise was to estimate wait times based on some solid data. Who is getting screwed, and by how much. (Looks like, the answer to 'who' is Indians, and the answer to 'how much' is 'A lot'.)

    People will naturally not wait for 20 years to get a greencard. Either things will be fixed, or people will start leaving.



    I think thigns break even at some point. It is so frustrating that it becomes no longer attractive to pursue GC (If we have not already reached that point).
    You got to be open to change to survive, be it a person or a country. No point in predicting death before GC or any such extreme cases. It will definetely take as long as it needs. Its basic capitalism at best , supply and demand. You can't beat that.

    Nothing wrong in trying to change the course though.





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  • GCVivek
    03-21 02:50 PM
    Consultants end up being cheaper for companies. Much cheaper! No labor tax, no payroll tax, no health insurance (over $500), no any insurance, no contributions to 401K and many more expenses. Plus $12K and then what? You will leave the firm in 6 months. Plus you cannot say that ONLY they got their worth from your services. They paid you what you are worth too! Right?

    Green card processing costs only $12000 max..Its not a big deal for such big companies.They just dont want to do the favor.
    getting green card itself takes min 10 years. so you r going to stick on to this company until that time. is that not a gaurantee. working for 10 years with same company.
    you know y consulting companies file green card immediately. they do that becos the employee will stay with the company for a while.American companies do not realize this.
    one of my friend came back to compny as a consultant. now they are paying two times more than what they were oaying him as full time employee. is that not an expense to the company...why they r paying him that much now , instead they should have filed his green card.





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  • gk_2000
    06-10 04:20 PM
    Done..





    leoindiano
    02-18 08:25 PM
    I dont think it will be passed. They included so many things initially. After discussion they will drop the thing one after another.

    There are two sections related to us.
    TITLE V--LEGALIZATION FOR LONG-TERM RESIDENTS
    TITLE VII--EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRATION

    If this bill passed then it will create one grand huge backlog for all countries and for all category of immigration. WHY?? Because for Title V they will ask for proof and then again finger printing for FBI check and I dont know home many paper work. If they simply increase the GC #s it will work for us. We already have completed the paper work and standing in Q.

    Agree,

    this is such a waste if it passes. I am sure there will be another application like (I-420). Another Q you will have to stand in and wait...wait...wait...





    ansh78
    09-26 11:34 AM
    Ok I sent message to the editor...Simple copy paste the above message from vamsi.......come on everyone should do it.



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