leekohler
Apr 7, 01:56 PM
It can cause a lot of problems when people misinterpret or don't understand it. And lots of modern believers do avoid reading the old testament, especially books of the law like Leviticus and Deuteronomy (because they can be hard to understand).
For me personally, I enjoy reading the narratives of old testament figures like Abraham, David, Joshua, Moses, Solomon, Isaac, etc. etc. These people were far from perfect and much of what we learn from them is in taking note of the mistakes they made. It gives me comfort knowing that if God can use them then he can possibly use me despite the numerous mistakes I make.
Then there are the accounts of people like Job and Joseph. These stories provide such great encouragment as you see how they navigated and overcame such great hardship. Reading their stories provides hope.
Wisdom and poetry books like Psalms and Proverbs are also encouraging and easy to read with their straight forward style and memorable sayings.
I'd encourage everyone to read the Bible. Even if you don't believe it is divinely inspired you can still learn from the collective wisdom of what it contains. It seems that the atheist book the OP started this thread about would contain a good collection of human wisdom and knowledge. I don't know about it being representative of the beliefs of all atheist, but it most likely contains good information from the experiences of those who have gone before us. I would like to think that non-believers could view the Bible in much the same way regardless of whether they believe in God.
Great question lee, thanks for asking. :)
I've read it about sixteen times, thanks. ;)
For me personally, I enjoy reading the narratives of old testament figures like Abraham, David, Joshua, Moses, Solomon, Isaac, etc. etc. These people were far from perfect and much of what we learn from them is in taking note of the mistakes they made. It gives me comfort knowing that if God can use them then he can possibly use me despite the numerous mistakes I make.
Then there are the accounts of people like Job and Joseph. These stories provide such great encouragment as you see how they navigated and overcame such great hardship. Reading their stories provides hope.
Wisdom and poetry books like Psalms and Proverbs are also encouraging and easy to read with their straight forward style and memorable sayings.
I'd encourage everyone to read the Bible. Even if you don't believe it is divinely inspired you can still learn from the collective wisdom of what it contains. It seems that the atheist book the OP started this thread about would contain a good collection of human wisdom and knowledge. I don't know about it being representative of the beliefs of all atheist, but it most likely contains good information from the experiences of those who have gone before us. I would like to think that non-believers could view the Bible in much the same way regardless of whether they believe in God.
Great question lee, thanks for asking. :)
I've read it about sixteen times, thanks. ;)
CANEHDN
Jan 11, 04:06 PM
This has a lot of posts already. It's getting exciting.
artifex
Sep 12, 05:25 PM
Let me be the first to lament:
THEY BROKE iTUNES 5.x!
Well, you can still use it for playback and music management. But you can't use the shopping cart any more.
:( :( :(
THEY BROKE iTUNES 5.x!
Well, you can still use it for playback and music management. But you can't use the shopping cart any more.
:( :( :(
tuyenvo
Mar 29, 11:07 PM
I'm on the waiting list at my Radio Shack and the two guys ahead of me didn't have to buy an accessory with their iPad. Might be a store by store thing.
virus1
Oct 15, 08:17 PM
Or (and here's a radical idea) why not put a small speaker on the player itself?
there is one.
but anyways, why would you use it when you could have her on a 2 foot ear bud leash?
there is one.
but anyways, why would you use it when you could have her on a 2 foot ear bud leash?
vanzskater272
Nov 6, 11:03 PM
All I want is a real graphics card.
iStudentUK
Apr 7, 05:13 PM
However, I can't agree that the Bible is "neutral" or relative in that it can correctly be interpreted in any way someone chooses. The Bible is clear in it's express purpose as God's revelation of himself to mankind. The Bible is judged and interpreted against itself using the literary and textual tools of interpretation that we have available to us.
Of course not any interpretation is valid; however, the Bible is very complex and contradicts itself in places. There is no set interpretation that can said to be right, rather a spectrum that can be justified. "Clear" is not a word I would use.
Like all communication it can only be correctly interpreted in light of the intended meaning of it's original author. This is where faith comes into the process. Followers of Christ hold to the belief that it is God's inspired and inerrant word. The living God is it's author and he inspired men to write within their own historical and literary context to specific audiences at a specific time. All of these contexts become clues that help guide us to His intended meaning.
This is obviously where we part ways. For me the Bible is the product of man. Nothing more.
God's word calls us to "love one another" and to be servant leaders in bearing one another's burdens. Westboro seeks to judge, spread hate, and cause dissension. Sure they quote scripture and hide behind an illusion of faith, but they take verses out of context and aren't living out God's commands.
However, you are still using one interpretation that you have chosen. There is no way to know if you are right. I agree that WBC are at the extreme end, but the overall message of the Bible doesn't seem to be clear. Just look at the issue of homosexuality- many "normal" (you know what I mean!) Christians find homosexuality difficult to justify, whilst others have no issue with it. The Bible states many times how "wrong" homosexuality is but other passages suggest otherwise. Both interpretations seem to be possible without stretching the facts.
So whilst it may be possible to say the WBC aren't living out God's commands, it's not possible to say whether the Christian that is uncomfortable homosexuals is living out God's commands or not. I would hope God would have no issue with homosexuality, but that hope is based upon an extrinsic sense of morality.
Of course not any interpretation is valid; however, the Bible is very complex and contradicts itself in places. There is no set interpretation that can said to be right, rather a spectrum that can be justified. "Clear" is not a word I would use.
Like all communication it can only be correctly interpreted in light of the intended meaning of it's original author. This is where faith comes into the process. Followers of Christ hold to the belief that it is God's inspired and inerrant word. The living God is it's author and he inspired men to write within their own historical and literary context to specific audiences at a specific time. All of these contexts become clues that help guide us to His intended meaning.
This is obviously where we part ways. For me the Bible is the product of man. Nothing more.
God's word calls us to "love one another" and to be servant leaders in bearing one another's burdens. Westboro seeks to judge, spread hate, and cause dissension. Sure they quote scripture and hide behind an illusion of faith, but they take verses out of context and aren't living out God's commands.
However, you are still using one interpretation that you have chosen. There is no way to know if you are right. I agree that WBC are at the extreme end, but the overall message of the Bible doesn't seem to be clear. Just look at the issue of homosexuality- many "normal" (you know what I mean!) Christians find homosexuality difficult to justify, whilst others have no issue with it. The Bible states many times how "wrong" homosexuality is but other passages suggest otherwise. Both interpretations seem to be possible without stretching the facts.
So whilst it may be possible to say the WBC aren't living out God's commands, it's not possible to say whether the Christian that is uncomfortable homosexuals is living out God's commands or not. I would hope God would have no issue with homosexuality, but that hope is based upon an extrinsic sense of morality.
MoTo77
Mar 15, 03:08 PM
Yeah, and it's getting harder and harder to take the buyer's guide seriously...
It's been saying "don't buy" about mac pro's and macbook pro's since at least november last year...
It switched over to DON'T BUY on MBPs just after Christmas. I was checking it regularly in those days.
It's been saying "don't buy" about mac pro's and macbook pro's since at least november last year...
It switched over to DON'T BUY on MBPs just after Christmas. I was checking it regularly in those days.
spencers
Mar 25, 01:41 PM
666 MB :eek:
I've been noticing my phone has been draining the battery rather quickly. Hopefully this fixes it.
I've been noticing my phone has been draining the battery rather quickly. Hopefully this fixes it.
illegalprelude
Oct 15, 03:12 PM
By the time you've gone through all that, the girl's got up and left! You're much better off to take one of your earbuds out and put it in her ear. Then you're connected with about two feet of headphone cable.
hahaha awesome :D
hahaha awesome :D
kavika411
Mar 29, 05:03 PM
And to look at it in a slightly different way ...
Would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene and determine the outcome in our civil war?
I don't know, citizenzen. Tell me: would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene the outcome in our civil war?
At the moment, I'm more interested if Piano's military intervention criteria apply to the Republic of Congo.
Would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene and determine the outcome in our civil war?
I don't know, citizenzen. Tell me: would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene the outcome in our civil war?
At the moment, I'm more interested if Piano's military intervention criteria apply to the Republic of Congo.
kojiroshinkara
Mar 11, 04:34 PM
So 9to5's retraction is because a bunch of you guys were giving him fraudulent tips?
That's shameful, I thought we were better than that.
That's shameful, I thought we were better than that.
gregbenj
Jul 22, 09:30 PM
Integrate motion sensors! With a flick of the wrist, the page will turn. Hot Damn!
EGT
Oct 15, 05:32 PM
Steve is great. :cool:
I'm curious. Just how "slow" (transfer speed) is the wireless on Zune?
I'm curious. Just how "slow" (transfer speed) is the wireless on Zune?
djellison
Nov 3, 06:00 AM
Putting aside the fact that Flash is crap....
On Macs. It's great on PCs. Isn't it ironic - Silverlight, MS's alternative to Flash, is better in Safari than Flash is.
On Macs. It's great on PCs. Isn't it ironic - Silverlight, MS's alternative to Flash, is better in Safari than Flash is.
downpour
Apr 11, 02:36 AM
We just purchased CS5 last week, at the massively over-inflated UK price.
Now they want us to pay them some more for a service pack.
Thanks a lot Adobe.
Edit:
OK I take it back... well partially... the UK prices are still a disgrace.
From Adobe's site:
"You might be eligible for a complimentary upgrade if you recently bought your software product (full or upgrade)."
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/153/tn_15304.html
Now they want us to pay them some more for a service pack.
Thanks a lot Adobe.
Edit:
OK I take it back... well partially... the UK prices are still a disgrace.
From Adobe's site:
"You might be eligible for a complimentary upgrade if you recently bought your software product (full or upgrade)."
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/153/tn_15304.html
animefan_1
Jul 22, 10:19 PM
"a substantial amount of screen real estate" ...
This sounds like the 8lb iPod SJ previously mentioned! I am looking forward to this thing...whatever form it takes...:p
Except this iPod would only be 2 lbs...or less.
This sounds like the 8lb iPod SJ previously mentioned! I am looking forward to this thing...whatever form it takes...:p
Except this iPod would only be 2 lbs...or less.
PlaceofDis
Jul 22, 08:32 PM
honestly. i would love this.
Analog Kid
Aug 2, 08:02 PM
Isn't the internal wireless device made by Intel? It's not sure Apple and Intel needs the help from Atheros to get drivers for that.
But even what the article says, I don't see why the demo would use a 3rd party wireless card if they could just as well have attacked the built in Airport.
Sorry to ask such basic questions, but I can't get the video to play through our firewall... Do they explicitly show an external WiFi card plugged into the slot?
But even what the article says, I don't see why the demo would use a 3rd party wireless card if they could just as well have attacked the built in Airport.
Sorry to ask such basic questions, but I can't get the video to play through our firewall... Do they explicitly show an external WiFi card plugged into the slot?
emorydunn
Mar 7, 11:33 PM
An electric pylon in the woods near where I live.
I was considering posting this in the weekly photo contest thread as the current theme is surrealism, but I decided to stick with my old favourite, photo of the day.
I really like this. All of the lines seem to point to the centre which adds a good dynamic and the slight warping in the pylon is just perfect.
As for mine, it's part of a personal project that I've been messing around with for a little while. There are a couple other lighting styles and colours in the Flickr set. I'm not quite sure how I want to do the final image but I'm thinking maybe a triptych of different coloured lights might work well.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5501106890_9605f1f1f0_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emorydunn/5501106890/in/photostream/)
I was considering posting this in the weekly photo contest thread as the current theme is surrealism, but I decided to stick with my old favourite, photo of the day.
I really like this. All of the lines seem to point to the centre which adds a good dynamic and the slight warping in the pylon is just perfect.
As for mine, it's part of a personal project that I've been messing around with for a little while. There are a couple other lighting styles and colours in the Flickr set. I'm not quite sure how I want to do the final image but I'm thinking maybe a triptych of different coloured lights might work well.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/5501106890_9605f1f1f0_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/emorydunn/5501106890/in/photostream/)
VidPro
May 5, 08:25 AM
I do understand people hate for 3D displays, but people calling it a fad, it's not. Not any more anyways.
It is now a part of technological evolution for TVs and image devices.
Calling 3D a fad right now is like calling colour TV a fad in the 1950s. Just like how colour TV to start wasn't perfect, 3D isn't perfect yet either.
We all know Apple is the king of imaging technologies, they wouldn't release a product with something like a 3D screen without it being perfect and "magical".
Perfect? I'm going on perfect iPad number 6 because of screen issues.
Anyway, 3D is a gimmick. I'd rather a TV with perfect blacks and color over a nauseating trick.
It is now a part of technological evolution for TVs and image devices.
Calling 3D a fad right now is like calling colour TV a fad in the 1950s. Just like how colour TV to start wasn't perfect, 3D isn't perfect yet either.
We all know Apple is the king of imaging technologies, they wouldn't release a product with something like a 3D screen without it being perfect and "magical".
Perfect? I'm going on perfect iPad number 6 because of screen issues.
Anyway, 3D is a gimmick. I'd rather a TV with perfect blacks and color over a nauseating trick.
BMJT
Oct 16, 06:55 AM
Sure but it's tiny and i think i drew it out of portion as that bed i drew looks giant!
Chester drawers! Brilliant
Chester drawers! Brilliant
SortKaffe
Apr 12, 12:02 PM
How about, "we want to invest in the US!"
Sheeeez!
There should be a law that states anytime a US company chooses to manufacture something outside the US, the company must post a clearly-articulated-less-than-25-page document stating AND COMPARING why the US is unable to manufacture said product.
Never gonna happen. Pretty much all politicians in the United States are bought and owned by corporate interest groups. And they're not out to help the average guy live a decent life. They're not gonna stop until they've destroyed the labour unions completely so they can bring our wages down even more. The minimum wage is already a joke but don't worry man, the day we're making just as much as a bangladeshi guy they'll be happy. That way they don't have to move factories to the far east, They can just build them right here in the massive suburban poverty stricken areas of the united states. Then We'll be making iPhones at sh.it wages for the rich easterners! Yeehow! America Number 1?!.......... No?
It's a sad world. If every country could just agree on laws that would secure a decent wage for everyone this sh.it wouldn't be going on.
Sheeeez!
There should be a law that states anytime a US company chooses to manufacture something outside the US, the company must post a clearly-articulated-less-than-25-page document stating AND COMPARING why the US is unable to manufacture said product.
Never gonna happen. Pretty much all politicians in the United States are bought and owned by corporate interest groups. And they're not out to help the average guy live a decent life. They're not gonna stop until they've destroyed the labour unions completely so they can bring our wages down even more. The minimum wage is already a joke but don't worry man, the day we're making just as much as a bangladeshi guy they'll be happy. That way they don't have to move factories to the far east, They can just build them right here in the massive suburban poverty stricken areas of the united states. Then We'll be making iPhones at sh.it wages for the rich easterners! Yeehow! America Number 1?!.......... No?
It's a sad world. If every country could just agree on laws that would secure a decent wage for everyone this sh.it wouldn't be going on.
tuyenvo
Mar 29, 11:07 PM
I'm on the waiting list at my Radio Shack and the two guys ahead of me didn't have to buy an accessory with their iPad. Might be a store by store thing.
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