GCard_Dream
07-11 07:17 PM
kramer2005 is probably one of those folks stuck in BEC who were so happy when DOS released the July visa bulletin update. They thought it was unfair to them that we were allowed to file 485. And now that there is some hope again for us to file 485, these guys are back to discourage us from pursuing this further.
Ok, we are stopping this stupidity. Happy?
Let's all go home and do nothing.
but wait,,....... what are you doing here on this forum if you feel so strongly...
Ok, we are stopping this stupidity. Happy?
Let's all go home and do nothing.
but wait,,....... what are you doing here on this forum if you feel so strongly...
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vbkris77
04-08 06:32 PM
If you think any fraud is going on or there is a law being misused you must complain to USCIS and Ombudsman. Unless it is reported nobody in a position of power will know about it and nothing will be done to stop it.
I will try to explain the process it takes to get qualified for EB1C.
You will need to be outside USA for an year working as an Executive or manager. Come back to USA in that role. So the appropriate visa will be L1A. Most Indian companies require atleast 5-6 years of experience before they look at your resume for a manager. Most of the managers now a days get fired if their targets are not met in couple of quarters. So staying in that position for couple of years it self is a big deal. Now they need to prove the candiate valid for L1A position. Face a visa interview and come here and start working. Even if the same company is sponsering the L1A. Compaines usually wait for an year or two before they file I140. This application wll rot in CIS queue for long enough before they get a decision and GC.
This is the actual process.. If some company works in an apartment in India with one man show and tries to get an L1A, I am not sure if they will get through and get a VISA??? It is quite common that we have more EB1Cs becos, the number of Desi companies have grown. So if you think you are experienced and want to give a shot, try it. These kind of complaints in a longer run will bite us by delaying the applications and building backlogs..
I think it has become a standard process after any visa bulletin. We try to fight on EB2/EB3 or India vs. ROW or AP in India vs. rest of India. This time it happened to be EB1 vs. rest of EB..
The system is already screwed.. Lets not add more delays.. If we want to complain, lets complain about the root cause of the problem.. i.e. CIS wasted visas that caused these backlogs..
Just ask your self a question, if you were given GC tomorrow will you care who comes next or how one comes here??? Atleast I won't. There is a whole department paid to do this job..
I will try to explain the process it takes to get qualified for EB1C.
You will need to be outside USA for an year working as an Executive or manager. Come back to USA in that role. So the appropriate visa will be L1A. Most Indian companies require atleast 5-6 years of experience before they look at your resume for a manager. Most of the managers now a days get fired if their targets are not met in couple of quarters. So staying in that position for couple of years it self is a big deal. Now they need to prove the candiate valid for L1A position. Face a visa interview and come here and start working. Even if the same company is sponsering the L1A. Compaines usually wait for an year or two before they file I140. This application wll rot in CIS queue for long enough before they get a decision and GC.
This is the actual process.. If some company works in an apartment in India with one man show and tries to get an L1A, I am not sure if they will get through and get a VISA??? It is quite common that we have more EB1Cs becos, the number of Desi companies have grown. So if you think you are experienced and want to give a shot, try it. These kind of complaints in a longer run will bite us by delaying the applications and building backlogs..
I think it has become a standard process after any visa bulletin. We try to fight on EB2/EB3 or India vs. ROW or AP in India vs. rest of India. This time it happened to be EB1 vs. rest of EB..
The system is already screwed.. Lets not add more delays.. If we want to complain, lets complain about the root cause of the problem.. i.e. CIS wasted visas that caused these backlogs..
Just ask your self a question, if you were given GC tomorrow will you care who comes next or how one comes here??? Atleast I won't. There is a whole department paid to do this job..
485Mbe4001
06-16 05:15 PM
probably implies that they are looking for a way to quietly kill the bill using procedures so that no one is red faced, come election time...
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h1techSlave
03-30 11:18 AM
parking updates on post #2
Thanks for the parking info. You might want to post details about driving and metro details.
Thanks for the parking info. You might want to post details about driving and metro details.
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GCHope2011
01-10 05:03 PM
Rep.Darell Issa (NY) has introduced a bill to end the Diversity Lottery program and give the 55k visas to EB applicants with advanced US Degrees. This is a pretty exciting development (at least to me).
I think this is a great starting point that we should all jump on to clear EB backlogs.
Link:
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.43 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.00043:)
In the three days - Jan 5, 6 & 7, there were 75 bills referred to the House Judiciary Committee. This was one of the 75. Very likely, this is just posturing and nothing more.
I think this is a great starting point that we should all jump on to clear EB backlogs.
Link:
Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.43 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.00043:)
In the three days - Jan 5, 6 & 7, there were 75 bills referred to the House Judiciary Committee. This was one of the 75. Very likely, this is just posturing and nothing more.
ujjvalkoul
12-18 05:16 PM
Confirmed with 2 folks who have defintely joined IV
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raydon
05-21 07:37 AM
Called most of the offices;
Senator Menendez mailbox is full.. .great going IV
It would be great if all those messages were from IV. But how do we know that our opponents are not doing the same thing ? Let's be optimistic though. Good job, IV members. Let's keep those phone calls going.
Senator Menendez mailbox is full.. .great going IV
It would be great if all those messages were from IV. But how do we know that our opponents are not doing the same thing ? Let's be optimistic though. Good job, IV members. Let's keep those phone calls going.
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GC_MAR_2003
05-15 12:46 PM
Hi,
At last, our priority dates are current.
Now, we have to go and submit Medical Examination Results.
My Wife is pregnant and I was told by my friends that it is not a good idea to get her immunized (vaccines) now. She might probably have taken most of them back in INDIA.
Is there a way we can apply for I-485 and get EID's without her immunization record? (I will have mine). I am sure there are others who are in the same boat.
Please advice.
At last, our priority dates are current.
Now, we have to go and submit Medical Examination Results.
My Wife is pregnant and I was told by my friends that it is not a good idea to get her immunized (vaccines) now. She might probably have taken most of them back in INDIA.
Is there a way we can apply for I-485 and get EID's without her immunization record? (I will have mine). I am sure there are others who are in the same boat.
Please advice.
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flthere
07-15 12:14 PM
Stupid thought: can USCIS sell spillover visas at premium (say $5k or $10k) rather than distributing them in a socialistic way :D .. even @ $5k, USCIS will gain $200 million in 2010 itself :) And this selling be based purely on Priority Date, neither on the category of EB nor on country. Purely Priority-Date based - just straight out to tackle retrogression overall.
how stupid isn't it?
how stupid isn't it?
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Wendall
04-11 01:11 AM
Congratulations Lasantha!!!
My PD is Feb 2005 at TSC, since my PD became current on the 1st April, I have not seen any LUDs on my USCIS account.
Accordingly, I was wondering what was your experience?
Specifically did you get any LUDs before you received the "Welcome New Resident" e-mail?
Thanks!
My PD is Feb 2005 at TSC, since my PD became current on the 1st April, I have not seen any LUDs on my USCIS account.
Accordingly, I was wondering what was your experience?
Specifically did you get any LUDs before you received the "Welcome New Resident" e-mail?
Thanks!
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SGP
04-15 05:01 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
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What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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amitjoey
12-21 11:26 AM
Hi IV members!
I know many of us have been toying with ideas to increase membership. I wanted to start a separate thread just to highlight the following idea - Every member bring one additional member to IV.
Specifically, these are the bullet points I suggest:
1. By December 31, each of you bring one member to IV.
If you really think about it, it is not a difficult task. Every one of us knows atleast one person stuck in GC process, that is talking conservatively. It takes less than 15 minutes to call one person and explain IVs efforts and request his/her support.
2. By January 15, each of us take responsibility to get the member we brought to IV to contribute to the cause. And I am not suggesting any particular amount.
3. Each of take responsibility in having them update their information on IV website, so that when the need arises, they can be contacted (for sending webfaxes etc. like last week).
Also, whenever you bring someone to IV, please post on this thread (it will encourage others). I feel this approach will work, if we keep this thread alive, and try to stick to the time deadline (deadlines might not have worked before, because they were too long term).
Also, please keep this thread on track, without any other discussions.
So IV'ers, lets add ONE member, and get ONE contribution!!!!
Thank you.
Neelu
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You can also use the tool
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
to invite your friends
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If you have not helped bring atleast one member to this forum, stop. Make that call right now, help a friend register, explain and make them aware.
This is the homework before the holidays.
I know many of us have been toying with ideas to increase membership. I wanted to start a separate thread just to highlight the following idea - Every member bring one additional member to IV.
Specifically, these are the bullet points I suggest:
1. By December 31, each of you bring one member to IV.
If you really think about it, it is not a difficult task. Every one of us knows atleast one person stuck in GC process, that is talking conservatively. It takes less than 15 minutes to call one person and explain IVs efforts and request his/her support.
2. By January 15, each of us take responsibility to get the member we brought to IV to contribute to the cause. And I am not suggesting any particular amount.
3. Each of take responsibility in having them update their information on IV website, so that when the need arises, they can be contacted (for sending webfaxes etc. like last week).
Also, whenever you bring someone to IV, please post on this thread (it will encourage others). I feel this approach will work, if we keep this thread alive, and try to stick to the time deadline (deadlines might not have worked before, because they were too long term).
Also, please keep this thread on track, without any other discussions.
So IV'ers, lets add ONE member, and get ONE contribution!!!!
Thank you.
Neelu
===========
You can also use the tool
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
to invite your friends
=========
If you have not helped bring atleast one member to this forum, stop. Make that call right now, help a friend register, explain and make them aware.
This is the homework before the holidays.
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dummgelauft
09-29 08:49 AM
Even illigal immigrants has more optimism,
And they actually believe themselves they have every right to become a permanant citizens than legal immigrants waiting in line.
Some folks can't even bear the thought if some one thinks they should try to influence the law makers.
Illegals have nothing to lose. If CIR happens...they celebrate, now that they can all be legal and apply for their families to follow them
If CIR does not happen...they still continue to live here, work their jobs, keep sending money home, and try and get their relatives over here by paying the "coyotes"...it makes no difference to them.
Even if these guys are legalised, they will still NOT pay taxes, NOT learn english, NOT try and be upstanding residents.
They have huge numers, both in population and political support.
They represent a MASSIVE democratic vote bank.
WE (EB) have none of the above and a lot to lose)
Hence, the attitude.
And they actually believe themselves they have every right to become a permanant citizens than legal immigrants waiting in line.
Some folks can't even bear the thought if some one thinks they should try to influence the law makers.
Illegals have nothing to lose. If CIR happens...they celebrate, now that they can all be legal and apply for their families to follow them
If CIR does not happen...they still continue to live here, work their jobs, keep sending money home, and try and get their relatives over here by paying the "coyotes"...it makes no difference to them.
Even if these guys are legalised, they will still NOT pay taxes, NOT learn english, NOT try and be upstanding residents.
They have huge numers, both in population and political support.
They represent a MASSIVE democratic vote bank.
WE (EB) have none of the above and a lot to lose)
Hence, the attitude.
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eb3_nepa
06-12 05:21 PM
... the problem however is that the laws and procedures of the land do not care if you are suffering to do things right which makes it an UNFAIR system.
Hold that thought Albaman, the verdict on immigration is not out yet. True the laws do not care if you are suffering but then you have to ask urself 2 questions:
1) B4 IV, how many organizations/Individuals have voiced their plights? If you keep suffering silently, even ur next door neighbour wont know if ur alive or dead.
2) We are not american citizens or even permanent residents. Why will the law and the lawmakers care for us automatically? Forget about vote-banks for a minute. Think about why they will care at all, especially when no one was voicing an increase in Green Cards? Big corps have voiced an increse in H1B's and they got it from time to time.
Hold that thought Albaman, the verdict on immigration is not out yet. True the laws do not care if you are suffering but then you have to ask urself 2 questions:
1) B4 IV, how many organizations/Individuals have voiced their plights? If you keep suffering silently, even ur next door neighbour wont know if ur alive or dead.
2) We are not american citizens or even permanent residents. Why will the law and the lawmakers care for us automatically? Forget about vote-banks for a minute. Think about why they will care at all, especially when no one was voicing an increase in Green Cards? Big corps have voiced an increse in H1B's and they got it from time to time.
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swarnapuri
05-16 01:09 PM
My PD is not current... but based on the text in the current Visa Bulletin, I might be able to apply within next 3-6 month.
Would it be an issue if I get the following documentation now itself :
1) Birth Certificate and affidavit
2) Medical Exam
Thanks!
Would it be an issue if I get the following documentation now itself :
1) Birth Certificate and affidavit
2) Medical Exam
Thanks!
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Lasantha
03-20 02:48 PM
You guys noticed that the approval rate has really slumped on for EB3 ROW?
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niuniuxin2006
05-02 11:18 AM
I am got audited at Atlanta. and I know many Chinese like me were stuck there too.
Please open a new thread at to get more Atlanta victims here!!!
and I would like to put this url on some Chinese immigration forum to get more data. But before that, could you please let me know what the next step so that I could get more People in.
That is exactly my point that Perm Audit is not focused on Nationality, Field or EB category. If most people are from India, China, Philippines then automatically most audit cases are going to be from these countries.
Are you also being audited?
Please open a new thread at to get more Atlanta victims here!!!
and I would like to put this url on some Chinese immigration forum to get more data. But before that, could you please let me know what the next step so that I could get more People in.
That is exactly my point that Perm Audit is not focused on Nationality, Field or EB category. If most people are from India, China, Philippines then automatically most audit cases are going to be from these countries.
Are you also being audited?
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tonyHK12
03-30 08:40 PM
One of the items in the agenda for the April 4th and 5th, 2011: Advocacy days in Washington DC is "-Allowing people to file I-485 and get EAD even when their priority date is not current." but the deadline for voting on this is April 30th, 2011.
Am I reading incorrectly?
The April 30th deadline is to get enough numbers for the public action items to be carried out in which thousands will participate in contacting USCIS and other related departments.
This public action item needs in the range of 10-20,000 participants to succeed.
We are also campaigning for this on April 4th -5th with meetings involving a couple of hundred people with offices in DC.
Am I reading incorrectly?
The April 30th deadline is to get enough numbers for the public action items to be carried out in which thousands will participate in contacting USCIS and other related departments.
This public action item needs in the range of 10-20,000 participants to succeed.
We are also campaigning for this on April 4th -5th with meetings involving a couple of hundred people with offices in DC.
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learning01
02-01 07:21 PM
Will look into its context and reference. When it was introdued, whether was it introduced, voted etc.
Try the above link by 485Mbe4001. I can get to it.
Try the above link by 485Mbe4001. I can get to it.
smisachu
01-14 06:16 PM
Look out for AAPL. Stocks getting clobbred in the after hours as Jobs announced he is taking a medical leave. Also guys in forex watch EUR/GBP.
If I do not see nervousness in the markets then I think tomorrow I am going to buy Oracle, Wal-Mart, Devon and may be Cisco. Expected return by BOB's inauguration 10%.
For Novices - do not buy SMALL Cap and Do not buy stocks < $5 (as suggested by Chintu25)
If I do not see nervousness in the markets then I think tomorrow I am going to buy Oracle, Wal-Mart, Devon and may be Cisco. Expected return by BOB's inauguration 10%.
For Novices - do not buy SMALL Cap and Do not buy stocks < $5 (as suggested by Chintu25)
sayantan76
04-10 09:26 PM
You are right. But many people came here at the middle of their carrier and they are struck here with their children education etc., They are bound to be here and there is no way. Further, in my country, there are still reservation policies in everything, which may prevent the kids in going in for the education line they like. I donot want to explain this more as I may be degrading my own mother country. In a nutshell, everyone who wish to be a citizen of this country will have lot of valid reasons for getting a citizenship in this country.
isn't the effect of reservation the same as the effect of affirmative action?
If your kid gets high scores in SAT but does not get into an ivy league college because your ethnicity is over-represented - but some other kid with much lower scores gets in (and its not a hypothetical scenario - happens every admission season and i sincerely hope does not happen to your loved ones).....where does that leave your logic??
i see your point that people do have their own reasons for desiring US citizenships - but sometimes its also important to take a step back and see what one is giving up!
isn't the effect of reservation the same as the effect of affirmative action?
If your kid gets high scores in SAT but does not get into an ivy league college because your ethnicity is over-represented - but some other kid with much lower scores gets in (and its not a hypothetical scenario - happens every admission season and i sincerely hope does not happen to your loved ones).....where does that leave your logic??
i see your point that people do have their own reasons for desiring US citizenships - but sometimes its also important to take a step back and see what one is giving up!
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