h1techSlave
09-22 10:17 PM
No, we are not going to abuse this and we won't be sending stuff over and over. But stoppers have a very Specific significance: to educate and differentiate between legal and illegal. A stopper says "Stop the reverse brain drain"...A stopper would pique people's interest becase we are typically lumped in with illegals, and a stopper does not exemplify what illegals are. Illegal immigration's message is: "legalize us and help new guest workers come", our stopper says "We are already legal and are already leaving, fix this before we all leave"
Actually, many Indians with US Citizenship are leaving too. What I have seen with my friends and coworkers is that, the moment they receive the US passport they book a flight to India and come back when ever they please. If media picks up that fact, then what is our strategy?
Actually, many Indians with US Citizenship are leaving too. What I have seen with my friends and coworkers is that, the moment they receive the US passport they book a flight to India and come back when ever they please. If media picks up that fact, then what is our strategy?
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bhasky25
02-15 06:00 PM
Labor is done via perm process and they are now centrally processed (only prevailing wage is state dependent). Your company can apply for it online and you should get a result in 3-4 wks if the case is not audited. Good Luck to you.
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03-01 09:51 PM
Hello nviren,
Thank You for the contributions.
I think most people here can relate in some way to the loss of opportunity in the prime part of our lives. I can certainly admit to it. The figures you provided are the true and affect our lives every day.
Thank You for the contributions.
I think most people here can relate in some way to the loss of opportunity in the prime part of our lives. I can certainly admit to it. The figures you provided are the true and affect our lives every day.
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swami_nag
02-15 05:09 PM
Folks,
I've been hearing a lot of banter about the L1 Vs H1-B the fact remains both these categories are badly abused, it doesnt matter who is the bigger evil. I would tend to agree that L1 has a worse abuse rate however.
The issue however is that these so called "high skilled" visas arent high skilled anymore. If you closely look at the people coming in I would bet a majority of them who came during the dot com era didnt even have basic engineering degrees , and a huge majority of those coming in now have these degrees but from institutions which are completely crappy, the college plays a big role in framing who you are and yeah people can argue "there are bright students" in these colleges, but they are just plain minimal at best. So bottomline a majority of these are not highly skilled or talented people.
When the H1-B was conceived it was supposed to pave its way really skilled engineers with excellent credentials and it is not the case anymore, if you are going to tell me things like QA and Data Warehousing need mind boggling skills I think I can just have a good laugh at it. The local citizens are very much capable of executing on them. These jobs account for a huge majority of the software based jobs in the US, yes this is not the only category for H1-B jobs but software accounts for a big chunk.
I think of the H1-B visa as something analogous to getting into the best schools in India or the best schools out here, you cannot be crappy and get admitted to those schools, neither can you pay shit loads of money and get admitted, and this is what is happening. Consultants bringing in people from wherever charging them a huge sum of money filing for their H1-B and then looking out for a job for them, the only skill here is the consultants skill in finding the person a job :-). The new trend is the students with masters degrees from here getting placed in a job which is completely against what they specialised in, if a student after his/her masters doesnt find a job its either his badluck or he just wasnt good enough even after a masters and just isnt ineligible and these consultants have found a way to place the inept students as well which sucks at best. I do not agree with the notion of good consultants, every consultant abuses the employment based Visa system, and I am for a cap on L1-B visa's or a limit thats decided by the number of employees a firm employs in the US.
So unless USCIS see's a way of somehow screening out the best and the brightest and weed out these consultants so only the best and brightest are brought in, I can vouch that a majority of the American Technology companies (Cisco, Intel, Microsoft, Qualcomm etal) do not abuse the H1-B system neither do they undercut wages. In the end they fail to meet their hiring needs since the system is flooded with so may people who do not deserve to get in.
I've been hearing a lot of banter about the L1 Vs H1-B the fact remains both these categories are badly abused, it doesnt matter who is the bigger evil. I would tend to agree that L1 has a worse abuse rate however.
The issue however is that these so called "high skilled" visas arent high skilled anymore. If you closely look at the people coming in I would bet a majority of them who came during the dot com era didnt even have basic engineering degrees , and a huge majority of those coming in now have these degrees but from institutions which are completely crappy, the college plays a big role in framing who you are and yeah people can argue "there are bright students" in these colleges, but they are just plain minimal at best. So bottomline a majority of these are not highly skilled or talented people.
When the H1-B was conceived it was supposed to pave its way really skilled engineers with excellent credentials and it is not the case anymore, if you are going to tell me things like QA and Data Warehousing need mind boggling skills I think I can just have a good laugh at it. The local citizens are very much capable of executing on them. These jobs account for a huge majority of the software based jobs in the US, yes this is not the only category for H1-B jobs but software accounts for a big chunk.
I think of the H1-B visa as something analogous to getting into the best schools in India or the best schools out here, you cannot be crappy and get admitted to those schools, neither can you pay shit loads of money and get admitted, and this is what is happening. Consultants bringing in people from wherever charging them a huge sum of money filing for their H1-B and then looking out for a job for them, the only skill here is the consultants skill in finding the person a job :-). The new trend is the students with masters degrees from here getting placed in a job which is completely against what they specialised in, if a student after his/her masters doesnt find a job its either his badluck or he just wasnt good enough even after a masters and just isnt ineligible and these consultants have found a way to place the inept students as well which sucks at best. I do not agree with the notion of good consultants, every consultant abuses the employment based Visa system, and I am for a cap on L1-B visa's or a limit thats decided by the number of employees a firm employs in the US.
So unless USCIS see's a way of somehow screening out the best and the brightest and weed out these consultants so only the best and brightest are brought in, I can vouch that a majority of the American Technology companies (Cisco, Intel, Microsoft, Qualcomm etal) do not abuse the H1-B system neither do they undercut wages. In the end they fail to meet their hiring needs since the system is flooded with so may people who do not deserve to get in.
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05-22 02:58 PM
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caydee
05-28 04:57 PM
Good points, only thing to add is not all innovations can be brought to notice to relate to a single employee ...most of the times we as employees are part of systemic effort that is innovating. It would be wrong to say that H1-bs are not contributing towards innovation ........
Good point. Very rarely can an invention be attributed to a single person. These days it is invariably a group effort.
By the way, why are we deviating?
Good point. Very rarely can an invention be attributed to a single person. These days it is invariably a group effort.
By the way, why are we deviating?
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svn
04-06 01:30 PM
All those who have voted - thanks for your response so far and agree with the sentiments expressed. For those who have not voted yet, please take the time to log in and vote - YOUR OPINION COUNTS!
Cant help but chuckle on your choice of words - DONORS = CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS.
So, others who volunteer their time, ideas ... are not CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS if they haven't paid 25 dollars in March ( since DONOR status started from March and 25 dollars is what is required to be a DONOR )
I am afraid, you are missing the point here - I did not intend to start a discussion on who counts as a "Donor". There have been several discussions on that topic and IV Core has laid out guidelines (if I am not mistaken, they have made attempts to go back and include folks who have contributed money in the past as well). Instead my focus is on how to increase "dollar contributions" towards our cause since as IV Core has clearly identified, nothing moves in Washington unless you have a strong lobby working for you, and as we all know, lobbying takes a significant amount of money. What I am interested in is simply - will you contribute dollars if, in exchange, you receive regular updates?
From a person who is in senior management position I'd expected better choices of words. Now on to your point of more regular updates -- let me ask you this - do you give weekly updates to your subordinates every week ? Do you share your strategy plans every week ? I believe whenever their is a material update to be shared, IV core will share it - predicting the frequency of it OR assuming that you will get an update every X days and see a progress is not a good practical idea.
Since you ask - the answer is YES. Not sure if you have heard of the "Servant Leadeship" but that is a management philosophy that believes an organization makes the most progress when the "leaders" at the top take the attitude of being "Servants" to those below them. The idea is based on the simple premise that people are more engaged and motivated to work when their boss listens to them and takes the trouble to keep them updated on what is going on. Instead, "Leaders" can always take the "high and mighty" road where they look down upon those below them (for various reasons - lack of trust being just one of them) but that is never going to be as effective or efficient as the former model I just mentioned. Don't take it from me though - feel free to do your own research on this topic and you will find that an increasing number of companies are starting to adopt this philosophy in order to achieve superior results and you don't have to look far to see how this is being practised in the world of politics today (President Obama).
Finally, IV has clearly positioned itself as a grassroots organization, but by articulating a philosophy of "we will share updates when we feel like it and think its appropriate for you to know about it", it is essentially operating in a somewhat "elitist" manner (though I believe, this is a purely a side-effect of it's loose structure, rather than intentional in any way). This also explains some of the questions coming up on the poll on "who constitutes the Core?" - while the website has a listing of the "Core" members, I believe some of that has morphed over time leading to the loose structure of today.
All I am really advocating is more transparency ...which should lead to more involvement as well. Thanks for your time.
Cant help but chuckle on your choice of words - DONORS = CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS.
So, others who volunteer their time, ideas ... are not CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS if they haven't paid 25 dollars in March ( since DONOR status started from March and 25 dollars is what is required to be a DONOR )
I am afraid, you are missing the point here - I did not intend to start a discussion on who counts as a "Donor". There have been several discussions on that topic and IV Core has laid out guidelines (if I am not mistaken, they have made attempts to go back and include folks who have contributed money in the past as well). Instead my focus is on how to increase "dollar contributions" towards our cause since as IV Core has clearly identified, nothing moves in Washington unless you have a strong lobby working for you, and as we all know, lobbying takes a significant amount of money. What I am interested in is simply - will you contribute dollars if, in exchange, you receive regular updates?
From a person who is in senior management position I'd expected better choices of words. Now on to your point of more regular updates -- let me ask you this - do you give weekly updates to your subordinates every week ? Do you share your strategy plans every week ? I believe whenever their is a material update to be shared, IV core will share it - predicting the frequency of it OR assuming that you will get an update every X days and see a progress is not a good practical idea.
Since you ask - the answer is YES. Not sure if you have heard of the "Servant Leadeship" but that is a management philosophy that believes an organization makes the most progress when the "leaders" at the top take the attitude of being "Servants" to those below them. The idea is based on the simple premise that people are more engaged and motivated to work when their boss listens to them and takes the trouble to keep them updated on what is going on. Instead, "Leaders" can always take the "high and mighty" road where they look down upon those below them (for various reasons - lack of trust being just one of them) but that is never going to be as effective or efficient as the former model I just mentioned. Don't take it from me though - feel free to do your own research on this topic and you will find that an increasing number of companies are starting to adopt this philosophy in order to achieve superior results and you don't have to look far to see how this is being practised in the world of politics today (President Obama).
Finally, IV has clearly positioned itself as a grassroots organization, but by articulating a philosophy of "we will share updates when we feel like it and think its appropriate for you to know about it", it is essentially operating in a somewhat "elitist" manner (though I believe, this is a purely a side-effect of it's loose structure, rather than intentional in any way). This also explains some of the questions coming up on the poll on "who constitutes the Core?" - while the website has a listing of the "Core" members, I believe some of that has morphed over time leading to the loose structure of today.
All I am really advocating is more transparency ...which should lead to more involvement as well. Thanks for your time.
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cygent
05-02 02:39 PM
What is this OBC battle you are talking about?
My comment was in reference to the poster's Africa comment. Do you think it is well informed & 'classy' ?
As for the OBC battle, is this the right forum to discuss such issues ?
My comment was in reference to the poster's Africa comment. Do you think it is well informed & 'classy' ?
As for the OBC battle, is this the right forum to discuss such issues ?
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waitnwatch
04-26 10:27 AM
This is absolutely fantastic. An article on the frontpage of Washington Post dedicated to IV. I'm sure the opponents must be cringing in their seats and biting their finger nails.
We sure do need more members to contribute to sustain this level of intense involvement.
We sure do need more members to contribute to sustain this level of intense involvement.
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10-10 03:28 PM
I hope it does some good to you and makes your PD current/closer so that you dont eat/sleep/drink VB. C mon man... There are other things you can do. Dont get offended by what I am saying. If your PD is closer, I can understand your excitement. But a lot of people are just killing time in forums by working their ass off on predictions and call it comic relief. I hope IV core members stop encouraging this kind of behavior.
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needhelp!
05-30 01:38 AM
I just watched the piece on Spelling Bee by Jimmy Falon on Late Night.. seems like they went all out to "encourage" Tim Ruiter for next year, because he is "origin Virginia". Did any of you guys watch this?
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saileshdude
07-04 12:22 PM
I have been a big fan of IV and have been a visitor to IV for a while. I now plan to become a volunteer and join my state chapter and also contribute in all possible ways to IV because I think IV is the best thing to happen to this community.
Dear gurus - here is my issue and I need some real concrete help.
I was working for a New Jersey based consulting company on a percentage basis ie 80/20 and all costs towards GC and h1b were by me. I found my own projects and negotiated my own billing rate.
I worked for this company for 3 years and filed for 485 in July 2007. I am EB2 India with a priority date of March 2nd, 2006. My 140 was approved in June, 2006.
In March, 2008 my project got over and I started looking for new projects. Market conditions forced me to take up a fulltime job using my EAD and I had to move into a fulltime job.
As it is safe past 180 days, I used AC21 portability and moved.
I had been having excellent relationship with my desi employer and in fact also payed up some money to the employer because the client did not pay for last 2 months of my project and my desi employer held me responsible as it was me who negotiated with the client and said it is my issue - for which I agreed.
I already sent a AC21 letter to USCIS through my Attorney - I am not sure if my file got updated.
My desi employer wants to withdraw the 140 petition now. He says, he cannot keep 140 petitions of employees who leave the organization and not on w2 and he will have "ability to pay issue"
I have heard horror stories of USCIS issuing denials and NOID because AC21 letter never reached the file even though it was sent in time and I guess this is exactly what my desi employer thinks - teach lesson by withdrawing 140.
I spoke to my Attorney and she says "your file may not be updated but we will keep a record that we sent" useful in case we want to respond to NOID or RFE.
Folks - please post your AC21 success/horror stories when previous employer withdrew the 140 petition.
What are my options to avoid a NOID or denial
Thanks in advance
I am in a similar situation , though not exactly the same. In my case I was laid off and my company is going to revoke the I-140 because the position is not there any more. I pleaded them not revoke the I-140 but they said they have to withdraw it as they do not want any liability. My company has about 30,000 employees. I also have the same question as to how I should avoid NOID or denial.
I have seen lot of people switch using AC21 but most of their employers do not revoke I-140. I have yet to see cases where a person's I-140 was actually revoked after 180 days and they were still safe and got their GC approved.
Dear gurus - here is my issue and I need some real concrete help.
I was working for a New Jersey based consulting company on a percentage basis ie 80/20 and all costs towards GC and h1b were by me. I found my own projects and negotiated my own billing rate.
I worked for this company for 3 years and filed for 485 in July 2007. I am EB2 India with a priority date of March 2nd, 2006. My 140 was approved in June, 2006.
In March, 2008 my project got over and I started looking for new projects. Market conditions forced me to take up a fulltime job using my EAD and I had to move into a fulltime job.
As it is safe past 180 days, I used AC21 portability and moved.
I had been having excellent relationship with my desi employer and in fact also payed up some money to the employer because the client did not pay for last 2 months of my project and my desi employer held me responsible as it was me who negotiated with the client and said it is my issue - for which I agreed.
I already sent a AC21 letter to USCIS through my Attorney - I am not sure if my file got updated.
My desi employer wants to withdraw the 140 petition now. He says, he cannot keep 140 petitions of employees who leave the organization and not on w2 and he will have "ability to pay issue"
I have heard horror stories of USCIS issuing denials and NOID because AC21 letter never reached the file even though it was sent in time and I guess this is exactly what my desi employer thinks - teach lesson by withdrawing 140.
I spoke to my Attorney and she says "your file may not be updated but we will keep a record that we sent" useful in case we want to respond to NOID or RFE.
Folks - please post your AC21 success/horror stories when previous employer withdrew the 140 petition.
What are my options to avoid a NOID or denial
Thanks in advance
I am in a similar situation , though not exactly the same. In my case I was laid off and my company is going to revoke the I-140 because the position is not there any more. I pleaded them not revoke the I-140 but they said they have to withdraw it as they do not want any liability. My company has about 30,000 employees. I also have the same question as to how I should avoid NOID or denial.
I have seen lot of people switch using AC21 but most of their employers do not revoke I-140. I have yet to see cases where a person's I-140 was actually revoked after 180 days and they were still safe and got their GC approved.
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dilipb
06-23 04:13 PM
Hi Dilip,
One Last time please
I am filling the I765 Form.
I have couple of questions.
1) in 11th column. Which USCIS Office( Am I write Nebraska or Nebraska Service Center) and What about Date? which date .... EAD Applied Date or EAD Approved Date?
2)I Enetred in to US Using AP but I am on H1B only so what is my Current immigration Status and Manner of Last Entry
Please Input your experiences.
I wrote NEBRASKA SERVICE CENTER
Section 11 has been created for you to tell them abt last EAD APPLICATION.
Keyword here is "application".
So in the Date I wrote the EAD application date and not the recept date.
This can be found on the last EAD receipt notice.
You are already sending them a copy of front and back of current EAD, where they can find on which date the EAD was approved etc.
Most cases Ideally current immigration status is "I-485 ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS PENDING".
I entered on an L1 5-6 years back. so I wrote manner of last entry as "TEMPORARY WORKER (L1)". Yes I have not reentered USA since then. Ha Ha.
My office mate reentered recently using AP and he wrote, also as per our lawyer, to use the word "PAROLEE"
One Last time please
I am filling the I765 Form.
I have couple of questions.
1) in 11th column. Which USCIS Office( Am I write Nebraska or Nebraska Service Center) and What about Date? which date .... EAD Applied Date or EAD Approved Date?
2)I Enetred in to US Using AP but I am on H1B only so what is my Current immigration Status and Manner of Last Entry
Please Input your experiences.
I wrote NEBRASKA SERVICE CENTER
Section 11 has been created for you to tell them abt last EAD APPLICATION.
Keyword here is "application".
So in the Date I wrote the EAD application date and not the recept date.
This can be found on the last EAD receipt notice.
You are already sending them a copy of front and back of current EAD, where they can find on which date the EAD was approved etc.
Most cases Ideally current immigration status is "I-485 ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS PENDING".
I entered on an L1 5-6 years back. so I wrote manner of last entry as "TEMPORARY WORKER (L1)". Yes I have not reentered USA since then. Ha Ha.
My office mate reentered recently using AP and he wrote, also as per our lawyer, to use the word "PAROLEE"
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sc3
11-15 06:05 PM
If you were not told the correct bill rate, you can recover that money. Simply ask them in writing to show you the contract since you are on 70/30 basis. The written contracts, oral contracts, emails all stand in the court but how will you prove an oral contract? If you have found an offer that meets your expectations just quit. We all make the same mistakes. We spend our time on working out things where they are not working. Just "quietly" without your employer getting a hint, find a job and quit.
Bill rate? 70/30 basis?? Contract??? I would like the OP to report his employer to DoL. DoL and USCIS will kick both the OP and the employer. It is easy to get carried away saying that the employer is blood sucker etc. But very clearly, you should know that there can't be these kinds of contracts on H1. The employer knows that people who go to them are on thin ice, and so does the employee (employer is there to do business -- he is not running charity).
Maybe you guys want OP to go to DoL so that both the employer and OP get kicked out of this country (that is good for all of us) due to obvious immigration fraud.
To top it, OP goes on an offensive when people point of the bitter truth to him. This site should not promote illegal behavior, anybody seeking advise on these topics should be severely castigated, because they broke the law too (and they know it, just dont want to admit it). Or maybe we should encourage these people to report to DoL so that all of them can be punished for misusing the laws.
Bill rate? 70/30 basis?? Contract??? I would like the OP to report his employer to DoL. DoL and USCIS will kick both the OP and the employer. It is easy to get carried away saying that the employer is blood sucker etc. But very clearly, you should know that there can't be these kinds of contracts on H1. The employer knows that people who go to them are on thin ice, and so does the employee (employer is there to do business -- he is not running charity).
Maybe you guys want OP to go to DoL so that both the employer and OP get kicked out of this country (that is good for all of us) due to obvious immigration fraud.
To top it, OP goes on an offensive when people point of the bitter truth to him. This site should not promote illegal behavior, anybody seeking advise on these topics should be severely castigated, because they broke the law too (and they know it, just dont want to admit it). Or maybe we should encourage these people to report to DoL so that all of them can be punished for misusing the laws.
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04-03 10:50 AM
I am suprprised if IV is working towards abiltiy to file 485 and hard country limit...Just want to know how IV is working towards these 2 items...
If any of these two wont show out in coming bill,..then I would say goodbye to IV..because all other items in bill were there without IV;s interaction....
Can somebody calrify if these options will anyway include in this bill..by means of ammendements...
We have been fighting very hard to introduce a number of amendments including the ability to file I-485 and also to remove the country limit. We have spoken to a number of senators in this regard.
While we have no guarantees that they will be introduced, one thing I can guarantee, we will fight as hard as we possibly could.
If any of these two wont show out in coming bill,..then I would say goodbye to IV..because all other items in bill were there without IV;s interaction....
Can somebody calrify if these options will anyway include in this bill..by means of ammendements...
We have been fighting very hard to introduce a number of amendments including the ability to file I-485 and also to remove the country limit. We have spoken to a number of senators in this regard.
While we have no guarantees that they will be introduced, one thing I can guarantee, we will fight as hard as we possibly could.
snathan
02-15 10:45 AM
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Outsourcing&articleId=9127943&taxonomyId=72&pageNumber=1
Now that Desi consultant companies are under scanner, i hope employees working for them get their long overdue justice.
H1B has become synonym for visa abuse bcoz of these moron's. I hope the system comesout clean.
Rather than targeting small H1 consulting companies...they have to target big IT firms with thousands of L1 visa. Thats bigger then the H1Bs...There is only 65K H1B per years. No one knows how many L1 visa they are issuing every year and there is no accountability.
Also the wage is too low.
Now that Desi consultant companies are under scanner, i hope employees working for them get their long overdue justice.
H1B has become synonym for visa abuse bcoz of these moron's. I hope the system comesout clean.
Rather than targeting small H1 consulting companies...they have to target big IT firms with thousands of L1 visa. Thats bigger then the H1Bs...There is only 65K H1B per years. No one knows how many L1 visa they are issuing every year and there is no accountability.
Also the wage is too low.
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10-07 06:21 PM
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